Donald Trump on James Comey

Donald Trump on Former FBI Director James Comey

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Oct 2016 - Jan 2017
Feb 2017 - 2020

Donald Trump on James Comey Then
Donald Trump on James Comey Now


#DonaldTrump 10/28/16: "I respect the fact that Director Comey was able to come back after what he did. I respect that very much." » #Trump 5/10/17: "I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job." Click To Tweet

Donald Trump on Former FBI Director James Comey

NOW

July - Oct 26, 2016

Donald Trump on James Comey Now
FBI director said Crooked Hillary compromised our national security. No charges. Wow! #RiggedSystem”
“[Comey has] made a mistake. OK? Or whatever. I don’t even call it a mistake. I think something happened… I think somebody talked to him.”
Oct 26, 2016 -


October 26, 2016: FBI Director James Comey released a letter stating that the FBI’s investigation into Hillary Clinton‘s private email server was back on because of potential new evidence.


THEN

Oct 28, 2016 - Jan 2017

Donald Trump on James Comey Then
“I respect the fact that Director Comey was able to come back after what he did. I respect that very much. And when the other side is complaining and complaining and complaining, there was no — there was reason for it, because all of the crimes that were committed, something should have happened then, not now.”
- Oct 28, 2016

Campaign rally in Phoenix, Arizona

C-SPAN, Oct 28, 2016
Presidential Candidate Donald Trump Rally in Phoenix, Arizona

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Hillary and the Dems loved and praised FBI Director Comey just a few days ago. Original evidence was overwhelming, should not have delayed!”
“I have to give the FBI credit. That was so bad what happened originally. And it took guts for Director Comey to make the move that he made in light of the kind of opposition he had where they’re trying to protect her from criminal prosecution. You know that. It took a lot of guts… What he did, he brought back his reputation. He brought it back… A lot of people want him to do the wrong thing. What he did was the right thing.”
- Oct 31, 2016

Campaign rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan

Politico, Oct 31, 2016
Trump praises Comey for having 'a lot of guts'

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“There is little doubt that FBI Director Comey and the great special agents within the FBI will be able to collect more than enough evidence to garner indictments against Hillary Clinton and her inner circle despite her effort to disparage and discredit the FBI. If she were to win, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis.”
- Nov 6, 2016

Campaign rally in Sioux City, Iowa

CBS Miami, Nov 6, 2016
FBI Director Says Latest Clinton Emails Don’t Change Decision

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November 6, 2016: James Comey released a letter stating that the FBI‘s investigation into Hillary Clinton‘s private email server was again closed because new evidence did not change their initial conclusion.

November 8, 2016: Donald Trump wins 2016 Presidential election


“I think that I would rather not comment [on whether I’ll ask for Comey’s resignation] yet. I don’t– I haven’t made up my mind. I respect him a lot. I respect the FBI a lot… I would certainly like to talk to him. And see him. This is a tough time for him. And I would like to talk to him before I’d answer a question like that… You know, he may have had very good reasons for doing what he did.”
- Nov 11, 2016

CBS News, Nov 13, 2016
President-elect Trump speaks to a divided country

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“Oh and there’s James. He’s become more famous than me.”
- Jan 22, 2017

Trump greets Comey at a White House reception for law enforcement, shaking his hand, pulling him forward and saying something in his ear, and patting him on the back.

The Hill, Jan 22, 2017
Trump greets Comey: 'He's become more famous than me'

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#DonaldTrump 10/31/16: "It took guts for…Comey to make the move that he made." » #Trump 12/3/17: "After years of Comey…the FBI…reputation is in Tatters – worst in History!" Click To Tweet

NOW

Feb 2017 - 2020

Donald Trump on James Comey Now
“The FBI is totally unable to stop the national security ‘leakers’ that have permeated our government for a long time. They can’t even find the leakers within the FBI itself. Classified information is being given to media that could have a devastating effect on U.S. FIND NOW”
“No, it’s not too late [to fire Comey], but, you know, I have confidence in him. We’ll see what happens. You know, it’s going to be interesting.”
Apr 12, 2017 -
FBI Director Comey was the best thing that ever happened to Hillary Clinton in that he gave her a free pass for many bad deeds!”

May 9, 2017: Donald Trump fires James Comey.


“Dear Director Comey: I have received the attached letters from the Attorney General [Jeff Sessions] and Deputy Attorney General [Rod Rosenstein] of the United States recommending your dismissal as the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. I have accepted their recommendation and you are hereby terminated and removed from office, effective immediately. While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the Bureau. It is essential that we find new leadership for the FBI that restores public trust and confidence in its vital law enforcement mission. I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors. Donald J. Trump”
May 9, 2017 -

Trump's firing letter to Comey

NBC News, May 10, 2017
Here's President Trump's Letter Firing James Comey

(retrieved 2/1/19)
“Cryin’ Chuck Schumer stated recently, “I do not have confidence in him (James Comey) any longer.” Then acts so indignant. #draintheswamp”
“The Democrats have said some of the worst things about James Comey, including the fact that he should be fired, but now they play so sad!”
“James Comey will be replaced by someone who will do a far better job, bringing back the spirit and prestige of the FBI.”
“Comey lost the confidence of almost everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat alike. When things calm down, they will be thanking me!”
“Dems have been complaining for months & months about Dir. Comey. Now that he has been fired they PRETEND to be aggrieved. Phony hypocrites!”
“I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”
May 10, 2017 -

From a document summarizing Trump's White House meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, and other Russian officials.

New York Times, May 19, 2017
Trump Told Russians That Firing ‘Nut Job’ Comey Eased Pressure From Investigation

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“Look, he’s a showboat. He’s a grandstander. The FBI has been in turmoil. You know that, I know that, everybody knows that. You take a look at the FBI a year ago, it was in virtual turmoil — less than a year ago. It hasn’t recovered from that…

“I was going to fire regardless of recommendation. They — he [Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein] made a recommendation. He’s highly respected. Very good guy, very smart guy. And the Democrats like him. The Republicans like him. He had made a recommendation. But regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it.

“And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself — I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story

“I just want somebody that’s competent. I am a big fan of the FBI. I love the FBI… He’s the wrong man for that position.”
May 11, 2017 -

NBC News (via Real Clear Politics), May 11, 2017
President Trump's Full Interview With Lester Holt: Firing Of James Comey

(retrieved 7/12/18)
“James Comey better hope that there are no ‘tapes’ of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!”
“Director Comey was very unpopular with most people. I actually thought when I made that decision — and I also got a very, very strong recommendation, as you know, from the Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein. But when I made that decision, I actually thought that it would be a bipartisan decision, because you look at all of the people on the Democratic side — not only the Republican side — they were saying such terrible things about Director Comey.

“Then he had the very poor performance on Wednesday. That was a poor, poor performance. So poor, in fact, that I believe — and you’d have to ask him, because I don’t like to speak for other people — but I believe that’s why the Deputy Attorney General went out and wrote his very, very strong letter.

“And then, on top of that, after the Wednesday performance by Director Comey, you had a person come and have to readjust the record, which many people have never seen before, because there were misstatements made. And I thought that was something that was terrible.

“We need a great director of the FBI. I cherish the FBI. It’s special. All over the world, no matter where you go, the FBI is special. The FBI has not had that special reputation with what happened.”
May 18, 2017 -

Chicago Sun-Times, May 18, 2017
Transcript: President Trump, Colombian President Santos presser

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“I believe the James Comey leaks will be far more prevalent than anyone ever thought possible. Totally illegal? Very ‘cowardly!'”
“James Comey leaked CLASSIFIED INFORMATION to the media. That is so illegal!”
“Wow, looks like James Comey exonerated Hillary Clinton long before the investigation was over…and so much more. A rigged system!
“Wow, FBI confirms report that James Comey drafted letter exonerating Crooked Hillary Clinton long before investigation was complete. Many people not interviewed, including Clinton herself. Comey stated under oath that he didn’t do this-obviously a fix? Where is Justice Dept?”
“As it has turned out, James Comey lied and leaked and totally protected Hillary Clinton. He was the best thing that ever happened to her!”
“I never asked Comey to stop investigating Flynn. Just more Fake News covering another Comey lie!”
“After years of Comey, with the phony and dishonest Clinton investigation (and more), running the FBI, its reputation is in Tatters – worst in History! But fear not, we will bring it back to greatness.”
Andrew McCabe FIRED, a great day for the hard working men and women of the FBI – A great day for Democracy. Sanctimonious James Comey was his boss and made McCabe look like a choirboy. He knew all about the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the FBI!”
“Wow, watch Comey lie under oath to Senator G when asked ‘have you ever been an anonymous source…or known someone else to be an anonymous source…?’ He said strongly ‘never, no.’ He lied as shown clearly on @foxandfriends.”
“Spent very little time with Andrew McCabe, but he never took notes when he was with me. I don’t believe he made memos except to help his own agenda, probably at a later date. Same with lying James Comey. Can we call them Fake Memos?”
“James Comey is a proven LEAKER & LIAR. Virtually everyone in Washington thought he should be fired for the terrible job he did-until he was, in fact, fired. He leaked CLASSIFIED information, for which he should be prosecuted. He lied to Congress under OATH. He is a weak and untruthful slime ball who was, as time has proven, a terrible Director of the FBI. His handling of the Crooked Hillary Clinton case, and the events surrounding it, will go down as one of the worst ‘botch jobs’ of history. It was my great honor to fire James Comey!”
“DOJ just issued the McCabe report – which is a total disaster. He LIED! LIED! LIED! McCabe was totally controlled by Comey – McCabe is Comey!! No collusion, all made up by this den of thieves and lowlifes!”
“Unbelievably, James Comey states that Polls, where Crooked Hillary was leading, were a factor in the handling (stupidly) of the Clinton Email probe. In other words, he was making decisions based on the fact that he thought she was going to win, and he wanted a job. Slimeball!”
“The big questions in Comey’s badly reviewed book aren’t answered like, how come he gave up Classified Information (jail), why did he lie to Congress (jail), why did the DNC refuse to give Server to the FBI (why didn’t they TAKE it), why the phony memos, McCabe’s $700,000 & more?”
“I never asked Comey for Personal Loyalty. I hardly even knew this guy. Just another of his many lies. His ‘memos’ are self serving and FAKE!”
“Slippery James Comey, a man who always ends up badly and out of whack (he is not smart!), will go down as the WORST FBI Director in history, by far!”
“Comey drafted the Crooked Hillary exoneration long before he talked to her (lied in Congress to Senator G), then based his decisions on her poll numbers. Disgruntled, he, McCabe, and the others, committed many crimes!”
“Slippery James Comey, the worst FBI Director in history, was not fired because of the phony Russia investigation where, by the way, there was NO COLLUSION (except by the Dems)!”
“James Comey Memos just out and show clearly that there was NO COLLUSION and NO OBSTRUCTION. Also, he leaked classified information. WOW! Will the Witch Hunt continue?”
“So General Michael Flynn’s life can be totally destroyed while Shadey [sic] James Comey can Leak and Lie and make lots of money from a third rate book (that should never have been written). Is that really the way life in America is supposed to work? I don’t think so!”
“James Comey illegally leaked classified documents to the press in order to generate a Special Council [sic]? Therefore, the Special Council [sic] was established based on an illegal act? Really, does everybody know what that means?”
“James Comey’s Memos are Classified, I did not Declassify them. They belong to our Government! Therefore, he broke the law! Additionally, he totally made up many of the things he said I said, and he is already a proven liar and leaker.”
“‘At least two Memos Comey shared with a friend contained Classified Information.’ Wall Street Journal”
“Is everybody believing what is going on. who would do anything so that I could not become President.James Comey can’t define what a leak is. He illegally leaked CLASSIFIED INFORMATION but doesn’t understand what he did or how serious it is. He lied all over the place to cover it up. He’s either very sick or very dumb. Remember sailor!”
“Not that it matters but I never fired James Comey because of Russia! The Corrupt Mainstream Media loves to keep pushing that narrative, but they know it is not true!”
Paul Manafort came into the campaign very late and was with us for a short period of time…but we should have been told that Comey and the boys were doing a number on him, and he wouldn’t have been hired!”
“What is taking so long with the Inspector General’s Report on Crooked Hillary and Slippery James Comey. Numerous delays. Hope Report is not being changed and made weaker! There are so many horrible things to tell, the public has the right to know. Transparency!”
“When will people start saying, ‘thank you, Mr. President, for firing James Comey?'”
“The IG Report is a total disaster for Comey, his minions and sadly, the FBI. Comey will now officially go down as the worst leader, by far, in the history of the FBI. I did a great service to the people in firing him. Good Instincts. Christopher Wray will bring it proudly back!”
“‘Donald Trump was 100% right to fire James Comey.’ Mark Levin”
“Wow, what a tough sentence for Paul ManafortWhat about Comey and Crooked Hillary and all of the others? Very unfair!”
“I think I did the country a tremendous favor by firing him… Who’s lied more than Comey? I mean, Comey lied a tremendous amount.”
June 15, 2018 -
“Certainly he, they just seem like very criminal acts to me. What he did was criminal. What he did was a terrible thing to people. What he did was so bad in terms of our constitution in terms of the wellbeing of our country. What he did was horrible. Should he be locked up? Let somebody make a determination. Look at all the dishonest things that crooked Hillary did. Look at what’s gone on. It’s very sad…

“I think Comey was the ringleader of this whole, you know den of thieves. It was a den of thieves

“I think Christopher Wray‘s a very different from Comey. Which is what you need, you need different. You need like the opposite. And he’s moving step by step. And you’re going to see a whole new very proud FBI.”
June 15, 2018 -

Fox News (via Real Politics), June 15, 2018
Trump: Amazed Strzok Is Still At FBI; Comey Was 'Ringleader' Of 'Den Of Thieves'

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“The IG Report totally destroys James Comey and all of his minions including the great lovers, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, who started the disgraceful Witch Hunt against so many innocent people. It will go down as a dark and dangerous period in American History!”
“‘The highest level of bias I’ve ever witnessed in any law enforcement officer.’ Trey Gowdy on the FBI’s own, Peter Strzok. Also remember that they all worked for Slippery James Comey and that Comey is best friends with Robert Mueller. A really sick deal, isn’t it?”
“Comey gave Strzok his marching orders. Mueller is Comey’s best friend. Witch Hunt!”
“Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election! Where is the DNC Server, and why didn’t Shady James Comey and the now disgraced FBI agents take and closely examine it? Why isn’t Hillary/Russia being looked at? So many questions, so much corruption!”
Peter Strzok worked as the leader of the Rigged Witch Hunt for a long period of time – he got it started and was only fired because the gig was up. But remember, he took his orders from Comey and McCabe and they took their orders from you know who. Mueller/Comey best friends!”
“Russian Collusion with the Trump Campaign, one of the most successful in history, is a TOTAL HOAX. The Democrats paid for the phony and discredited Dossier which was, along with Comey, McCabe, Strzok and his lover, the lovely Lisa Page, used to begin the Witch Hunt. Disgraceful!”
“Will the FBI ever recover it’s [sic] once stellar reputation, so badly damaged by Comey, McCabe, Peter S and his lover, the lovely Lisa Page, and other top officials now dismissed or fired? So many of the great men and women of the FBI have been hurt by these clowns and losers!”
“‘Very concerned about Comey’s firing, afraid they will be exposed,’ said Bruce Ohr. DOJ’s Emails & Notes show Bruce Ohr’s connection to (phony & discredited) Trump Dossier. A creep thinking he would get caught in a dishonest act. Rigged Witch Hunt!”
“No Collusion and No Obstruction, except by Crooked Hillary and the Democrats. All of the resignations and corruption, yet heavily conflicted Bob Mueller refuses to even look in that direction. What about the Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Strzok lies to Congress, or Crooked’s Emails!”
“‘Department of Justice will not be improperly influenced by political considerations.’ Jeff, this is GREAT, what everyone wants, so look into all of the corruption on the ‘other side’ including deleted Emails, Comey lies & leaks, Mueller conflicts, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Ohr… Come on Jeff, you can do it, the country is waiting!”
Hillary Clinton’s Emails, many of which are Classified Information, got hacked by China. Next move better be by the FBI & DOJ or, after all of their other missteps (Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Ohr, FISA, Dirty Dossier etc.), their credibility will be forever gone!”
“The only thing James Comey ever got right was when he said that President Trump was not under investigation!”
“The Democrats, none of whom voted for Jeff Sessions, must love him now. Same thing with Lyin’ James Comey. The Dems all hated him, wanted him out, thought he was disgusting – UNTIL I FIRED HIM! Immediately he became a wonderful man, a saint like figure in fact. Really sick!”
“If I did one mistake with Comey, I should have fired him before I got here. I should have fired him the day I won the primaries. I should have fired him right after the convention, say I don’t want that guy. Or at least fired him the first day on the job… I would have been better off firing him or putting out a statement that I don’t want him there when I get there…

“They used Carter Page, who nobody even knew, who I feel very badly for, I think he’s been treated very badly. They used Carter Page as a foil in order to surveil a candidate for the presidency of the United States

“Comey was a bad guy. He gets fired. They only have Andy left because they know they’re doing wrong.”
Sept 18, 2018 -

“Universities will someday study what highly conflicted (and NOT Senate approved) Bob Mueller and his gang of Democrat thugs have done to destroy people. Why is he protecting Crooked Hillary, Comey, McCabe, Lisa Page & her lover, Peter S, and all of his friends on the other side?”
Robert Mueller and Leakin’ Lyin’ James Comey are Best Friends, just one of many Mueller Conflicts of Interest.… Will the scathing document written about Lyin’ James Comey, by the man in charge of the case, Rod Rosenstein (who also signed the FISA Warrant), be a big part of the Report? Isn’t Rod therefore totally conflicted? Will all of the lying and leaking by the people doing the Report, & also Bruce Ohr (and his lovely wife Molly), Comey, Brennan, Clapper, & all of the many fired people of the FBI, be listed in the Report? Will the corruption within the DNC & Clinton Campaign be exposed?..And so much more!”
“It is being reported that Leakin’ James Comey was told by Department of Justice attorneys not to answer the most important questions. Total bias and corruption at the highest levels of previous Administration. Force him to answer the questions under oath!”
“James Comey just totally exposed his partisan stance by urging his fellow Democrats to take back the White House in 2020. In other words, he is and has been a Democrat. Comey had no right heading the FBI at any time, but especially after his mind exploded!”
“On 245 occasions, former FBI Director James Comey told House investigators he didn’t know, didn’t recall, or couldn’t remember things when asked. Opened investigations on 4 Americans (not 2) – didn’t know who signed off and didn’t know Christopher Steele. All lies!”
“Leakin’ James Comey must have set a record for who lied the most to Congress in one day. His Friday testimony was so untruthful! This whole deal is a Rigged Fraud headed up by dishonest people who would do anything so that I could not become President. They are now exposed!”
“‘Former FBI Director James Comey under fire for his testimony acknowledging he knew that the Democrats paid for that phony Trump Dossier.’ @LouDobbs Details on Tuesday night.”
“Wow, just learned in the Failing New York Times that the corrupt former leaders of the FBI, almost all fired or forced to leave the agency for some very bad reasons, opened up an investigation on me, for no reason & with no proof, after I fired Lyin’ James Comey, a total sleaze!”
“Funny thing about James Comey. Everybody wanted him fired, Republican and Democrat alike. After the rigged & botched Crooked Hillary investigation… the FBI was in complete turmoil (see N.Y. Post) because of Comey’s poor leadership and the way he handled the Clinton mess (not to mention his usurpation of powers from the Justice Department). My firing of James Comey was a great day for America. He was a Crooked Cop who is being totally protected by his best friend, Bob Mueller, & the 13 Angry Democrats – leaking machines who have NO interest in going after the Real Collusion (and much more) by Crooked Hillary Clinton, her Campaign, and the Democratic National Committee. Just Watch!”
“Lyin’ James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter S and his lover, agent Lisa Page, & more, all disgraced and/or fired and caught in the act. These are just some of the losers that tried to do a number on your President. Part of the Witch Hunt. Remember the ‘insurance policy?’ This is it!”
“The rank and file of the FBI are great people who are disgusted with what they are learning about Lyin’ James Comey and the so-called ‘leaders’ of the FBI. Twelve have been fired or forced to leave. They got caught spying on my campaign and then called it an investigation. Bad!”
“So funny to watch Schumer groveling. He called for the firing of bad cop James Comey many times – UNTIL I FIRED HIM!”
“If Roger Stone was indicted for lying to Congress, what about the lying done by Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Lisa Page & lover, Baker and soooo many others?”
“Disgraced FBI Acting Director Andrew McCabe pretends to be a ‘poor little Angel’ when in fact he was a big part of the Crooked Hillary Scandal & the Russia Hoax – a puppet for Leakin’ James Comey. I.G. report on McCabe was devastating. Part of ‘insurance policy’ in case I won.”
“Remember this, Andrew McCabe didn’t go to the bathroom without the approval of Leakin’ James Comey!”
“Lying James Comey… He’s bad. He’s a bad, bad — He’s a bad, bad guy. That’s been proven now with all of the emails… He did a horrible job at the FBI. Speak to the real agents, the real people, because the people at the FBI are incredible people. Not the sleaze on top.”
March 2, 2019 -

C-SPAN, March 2, 2019
President Trump at Conservative Political Action Conference

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“James Comey is a disgrace to the FBI & will go down as the worst Director in its long and once proud history. He brought the FBI down, almost all Republicans & Democrats thought he should be FIRED, but the FBI will regain greatness because of the great men & women who work there!”
“Perhaps never in the history of our Country has someone been more thoroughly disgraced and excoriated than James Comey in the just released Inspector General’s Report. He should be ashamed of himself!”
“The disastrous IG Report on James Comey shows, in the strongest of terms, how unfairly I, and tens of millions of great people who support me, were treated. Our rights and liberties were illegally stripped away by this dishonest fool. We should be given our stolen time back?”
“The fact that James Comey was not prosecuted for the absolutely horrible things he did just shows how fair and reasonable Attorney General Bill Barr is. So many people and experts that I have watched and read would have taken an entirely different course. Comey got Lucky!”
“I was right about Comey, CROOKED COP!”
“Being scolded by failed former ‘Intelligence’ officials, like James Clapper, on my condolences to Iran on their failed Rocket launch. Sadly for the United States, guys like him, Comey, and the even dumber John Brennan, don’t have a clue. They really set our Country back, but now we are moving forward like never before. We are winning again, and we are respected again!”
“The truth is that we have a nation that is disgusted with the FBI. We have a crisis of confidence in the number one law enforcement agency in this country (thanks Comey!).
“Leakin’ Lyin’ James Comey!”
“Had I not fired James Comey — who was a disaster, by the way — it’s possible I wouldn’t even be standing here right now. We caught him in the act. Dirty cops. Bad people.”
Feb 6, 2020 -

White House, Feb 6, 2020
Remarks by President Trump to the Nation

(retrieved 8/9/20)
“[I]f the first people you met from so called American Intelligence were Dirty Cops who have now proven to be sleazebags at the highest level like James Comey, proven liar James Clapper, & perhaps the lowest of them all, Wacko John Brennan who headed the CIA, you could perhaps understand my reluctance to embrace!”


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“Lordy, I hope there are tapes.”

James Comey, June 8, 20171The Hill, June 8, 2017
Comey: ‘Lordy, I hope there are tapes’
retrieved 2/1/19